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| Is there or has there been a list of the highest user rated books of WWEnd? |
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Location: Dallas, Texas | kcirbuk - 2024-06-30 5:39 AM Is there or has there been a list of the highest user rated books of WWEnd? When you find that you've missed such an obviously great idea it's almost embarrassing -- but that is what we love about all the great member input. Ya'll keep giving us great ideas to make the site better! A highest user rated list sounds interesting and we definitely have the data to make that happen. How about 3 new lists? - WWEnd Top Member Rated SF
- WWEnd Top Member Rated Fantasy
- WWEnd Top Member Rated Horror
They would be live lists where books can move up and down over time as more people join and tag their books. We'll have to run the numbers and come up with a minimum rating to keep the list length in control. We usually aim for a list of around 100 though we could go shorter. I'm not sure how many people would look at a list like this past the top 20 any way. Thoughts on list length? Anything else we should consider? Thanks for the great idea, kcirbuk!
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Location: California | Can you include the number of people rating as well? A 4.5 book rated by 3 users means something diffeent than a 4.5 book rated by 197 users. |
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Location: Dallas, Texas | lisagarrity - 2024-06-30 9:01 AM Can you include the number of people rating as well? A 4.5 book rated by 3 users means something different than a 4.5 book rated by 197 users. Yeah, we'll have to come up with an algorithm that takes number of ratings into account. I said we'd need to come up with a minimum rating to keep the length under control but I should have said minimum number of ratings instead. Whargoul is a wizz at this sort of thing.
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kcirbuk - 2024-06-30 5:39 AM Is there or has there been a list of the highest user rated books of WWEnd? When you find that you've missed such an obviously great idea it's almost embarrassing -- but that is what we love about all the great member input. Ya'll keep giving us great ideas to make the site better! A highest user rated list sounds interesting and we definitely have the data to make that happen. How about 3 new lists? - WWEnd Top Member Rated SF
- WWEnd Top Member Rated Fantasy
- WWEnd Top Member Rated Horror
They would be live lists where books can move up and down over time as more people join and tag their books. We'll have to run the numbers and come up with a minimum rating to keep the list length in control. We usually aim for a list of around 100 though we could go shorter. I'm not sure how many people would look at a list like this past the top 20 any way. Thoughts on list length? Anything else we should consider? ? Thanks for the great idea, kcirbuk!
Those three lists sound really nice! And great to hear that you like the idea!
I think it could still be interesting with a top 100 list, but it depends a bit on the spread of the ratings. If many books end up with the same rating it is not as interesting as if there are some books which are clearly ranked 1-20 for example.
And like lisagarrity mentioned, a cutoff of number of votes would be nice. Maybe 50 votes? 100? I guess if you have the rating data easily accessible you can create a nice cutoff from it!
Edited by kcirbuk 2024-07-02 3:01 PM
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| I had some time on my hands a while a go so went through the lists to figure out the highest rated books. In case anyone is interested!
Top 100 rated Science-Fiction books (minimum number of ratings = 80)
| Title | Author | Score | Ratings | 1 | Dune | Frank Herbert | 4.490 | 934 | 2 | Watchmen | Alan Moore,Dave Gibbons | 4.440 | 257 | 3 | Kindred | Octavia E. Butler | 4.430 | 127 | 4 | Hyperion | Dan Simmons | 4.420 | 625 | 5 | Nineteen Eighty-Four | George Orwell | 4.385 | 622 | 6 | Ender's Game | Orson Scott Card | 4.370 | 931 | 7 | The Book of the New Sun, Volume 2: Sword and Citadel | Gene Wolfe | 4.355 | 94 | 8 | Anathem | Neal Stephenson | 4.345 | 267 | 9 | The Hitchhiker's Guide to the Galaxy | Douglas Adams | 4.340 | 659 | 10 | A Deepness in the Sky | Vernor Vinge | 4.340 | 261 | 11 | The Fifth Season | N. K. Jemisin | 4.335 | 218 | 12 | Replay | Ken Grimwood | 4.330 | 97 | 13 | The Martian | Andy Weir | 4.330 | 262 | 14 | Flowers for Algernon | Daniel Keyes | 4.320 | 487 | 15 | Cryptonomicon | Neal Stephenson | 4.280 | 306 | 16 | The Foundation Trilogy | Isaac Asimov | 4.275 | 426 | 17 | The Fall of Hyperion | Dan Simmons | 4.260 | 434 | 18 | Memory | Lois McMaster Bujold | 4.245 | 98 | 19 | The First Fifteen Lives of Harry August | Claire North | 4.240 | 90 | 20 | Children of Time | Adrian Tchaikovsky | 4.230 | 94 | 21 | The Forever War | Joe Haldeman | 4.225 | 684 | 22 | Cloud Atlas | David Mitchell | 4.220 | 151 | 23 | The Player of Games | Iain M. Banks | 4.220 | 199 | 24 | The Handmaid's Tale | Margaret Atwood | 4.215 | 409 | 25 | The Dispossessed: An Ambiguous Utopia | Ursula K. Le Guin | 4.215 | 428 | 26 | Roadside Picnic | Arkady Strugatsky,Boris Strugatsky | 4.210 | 198 | 27 | Snow Crash | Neal Stephenson | 4.210 | 399 | 28 | 11/22/63 | Stephen King | 4.205 | 123 | 29 | V For Vendetta | Alan Moore,David Lloyd | 4.200 | 83 | 30 | A Fire Upon the Deep | Vernor Vinge | 4.200 | 361 | 31 | Earth Abides | George R. Stewart | 4.185 | 163 | 32 | The Diamond Age | Neal Stephenson | 4.175 | 328 | 33 | The Sword of the Lictor | Gene Wolfe | 4.175 | 160 | 34 | Surface Detail | Iain M. Banks | 4.170 | 85 | 35 | The Sparrow | Mary Doria Russell | 4.170 | 190 | 36 | The Citadel of the Autarch | Gene Wolfe | 4.170 | 144 | 37 | Rendezvous with Rama | Arthur C. Clarke | 4.165 | 612 | 38 | The Speed of Dark | Elizabeth Moon | 4.160 | 98 | 39 | Parable of the Talents | Octavia E. Butler | 4.155 | 87 | 40 | Mirror Dance | Lois McMaster Bujold | 4.155 | 124 | 41 | Parable of the Sower | Octavia E. Butler | 4.150 | 119 | 42 | The Left Hand of Darkness | Ursula K. Le Guin | 4.150 | 504 | 43 | Use of Weapons | Iain M. Banks | 4.150 | 172 | 44 | The Road | Cormac McCarthy | 4.145 | 290 | 45 | Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep? | Philip K. Dick | 4.145 | 597 | 46 | The Stars My Destination | Alfred Bester | 4.135 | 378 | 47 | Spin | Robert Charles Wilson | 4.135 | 288 | 48 | Non-Stop | Brian W. Aldiss | 4.135 | 111 | 49 | Blindsight | Peter Watts | 4.135 | 147 | 50 | Redemption Ark | Alastair Reynolds | 4.130 | 92 | 51 | Chasm City | Alastair Reynolds | 4.130 | 87 | 52 | Endymion | Dan Simmons | 4.125 | 198 | 53 | Slaughterhouse-Five: or The Children's Crusade: A Duty-Dance with Death | Kurt Vonnegut | 4.120 | 472 | 54 | 2001: A Space Odyssey | Arthur C. Clarke | 4.120 | 387 | 55 | The Obelisk Gate | N. K. Jemisin | 4.115 | 148 | 56 | Old Man's War | John Scalzi | 4.115 | 452 | 57 | I Am Legend | Richard Matheson | 4.115 | 374 | 58 | Ubik | Philip K. Dick | 4.115 | 277 | 59 | The Rise of Endymion | Dan Simmons | 4.110 | 212 | 60 | The Martian Chronicles | Ray Bradbury | 4.110 | 416 | 61 | All Clear | Connie Willis | 4.110 | 108 | 62 | Second Foundation | Isaac Asimov | 4.110 | 260 | 63 | A Closed and Common Orbit | Becky Chambers | 4.105 | 100 | 64 | Childhood's End | Arthur C. Clarke | 4.105 | 458 | 65 | Caliban's War | James S. A. Corey | 4.105 | 142 | 66 | Ready Player One | Ernest Cline | 4.100 | 259 | 67 | The Time Machine and The War of the Worlds | H. G. Wells | 4.100 | 163 | 68 | Foundation | Isaac Asimov | 4.095 | 423 | 69 | Abaddon's Gate | James S. A. Corey | 4.095 | 129 | 70 | Station Eleven | Emily St. John Mandel | 4.090 | 171 | 71 | Excession | Iain M. Banks | 4.090 | 119 | 72 | Animal Farm: A Fairy Story | George Orwell | 4.090 | 475 | 73 | A Canticle for Leibowitz | Walter M. Miller, Jr. | 4.090 | 499 | 74 | Fahrenheit 451 | Ray Bradbury | 4.090 | 578 | 75 | Cat's Cradle | Kurt Vonnegut | 4.090 | 324 | 76 | I, Robot | Isaac Asimov | 4.085 | 380 | 77 | A Clockwork Orange | Anthony Burgess | 4.085 | 292 | 78 | The Stone Sky | N. K. Jemisin | 4.085 | 138 | 79 | Speaker for the Dead | Orson Scott Card | 4.085 | 489 | 80 | Gateway | Frederik Pohl | 4.085 | 397 | 81 | The Book of the New Sun, Volume 1: Shadow and Claw | Gene Wolfe | 4.080 | 143 | 82 | The Claw of the Conciliator | Gene Wolfe | 4.080 | 189 | 83 | The Shadow of the Torturer | Gene Wolfe | 4.080 | 251 | 84 | The Illustrated Man | Ray Bradbury | 4.075 | 186 | 85 | The Restaurant at the End of the Universe | Douglas Adams | 4.075 | 289 | 86 | Jurassic Park | Michael Crichton | 4.070 | 132 | 87 | The Moon is a Harsh Mistress | Robert A. Heinlein | 4.065 | 437 | 88 | All Systems Red | Martha Wells | 4.065 | 157 | 89 | Barrayar | Lois McMaster Bujold | 4.065 | 178 | 90 | Downward to the Earth | Robert Silverberg | 4.060 | 93 | 91 | The City & the City | China MiƩville | 4.060 | 346 | 92 | Matter | Iain M. Banks | 4.055 | 89 | 93 | The Warrior's Apprentice | Lois McMaster Bujold | 4.055 | 120 | 94 | Doomsday Book | Connie Willis | 4.055 | 383 | 95 | A Civil Campaign | Lois McMaster Bujold | 4.055 | 100 | 96 | The Lathe of Heaven | Ursula K. Le Guin | 4.050 | 277 | 97 | Solaris | Stanislaw Lem | 4.050 | 206 | 98 | The Midwich Cuckoos | John Wyndham | 4.050 | 91 | 99 | Foundation and Empire | Isaac Asimov | 4.045 | 270 | 100 | Wool | Hugh Howey | 4.045 | 85 |
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Location: California | Thank you for the list. It's fascinating. There are books on the list I haven't read yet and a couple like Aldiss' Non-Stop that I wasn't even aware of. |
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Location: Dallas, Texas | kcirbuk - 2024-12-04 4:47 AM I had some time on my hands a while a go so went through the lists to figure out the highest rated books. In case anyone is interested! Top 100 rated Science-Fiction books (minimum number of ratings = 80) That looks like a great list to me! Nicely done.
We've been noodling about the member-rated list and the length of our lists in general and we've come up with a plan that should make everyone happy. We're going to split the WWEnd data-derived lists into 3 tabs for SF, Fantasy and Horror: - Top Nominated Books
- Top Listed Books
- Most Read Books
- Top Member-Rated Books (forthcoming)
- Award Winning Books by Women Authors
That will allow us to display more books across the 3 tabs while keeping each of the lists in check. By breaking the list out into 3 we'll be able to reach deeper into each genre. To get ~100 books in each genre we'll use a different minimum of noms/listings/reads/ratings/winners to get us as close to 100 as possible.
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